Chris Ryan

That actually seems to be one of the reasons that George is tripping up and finishing these novels is that he's introduced, what, 21 different POV characters.

And he's like, then I write one thing and I realize I've screwed something up, so I have to go back and fix this in somebody else's POV.

This show did something really nice for me, which is the show itself is shot from a POV.

Like, the show itself, the characters, like Lionel, for instance, appear...

The way they would appear to dunk.

Across the room.

Yeah, across the room, but also as this kind of like regal man of mystery rather than, of course, there's Lionel Baratheon.

Now let's just go through his timeline here and go through his family tree and who will come from him and who came before him.

It's more like Stranger in a Strange Land kind of reminds me a little bit of Deadwood.

Well, Deadwood did do a lot of POV switching between Al and Seth and everything, but the idea of arriving at this new place and everybody you get introduced to is kind of through the steps that these characters are taking to meet them, I thought was just really solid.

It's something that Game of Thrones as a show...

It did, but it didn't do like super religiously.

Right.

Or like Dany would leave a room and then people would keep talking and the camera would stay with them.

One of the small miracles of this show is that unlike, say, House of the Dragon, where I feel like I had to do, even without reading any of House of the Dragon or the books it was based on, research just to even figure out who this guy is.

You're such a wiki guy.

I was also like, what am I signing up for?

I just kind of want to make sure we have an end point.

I was going to ask you what you thought a viewer might want to know contextually about the world's point in the chronology that we're at.

But I have to just say...