Chris Shula

The defense, I made this point with limits on his show last night, young and energetic and passionate as he is as a driven sports professional in the media landscape.

I thought his unit acquitted itself pretty well against the Bears.

The points that they gave up were superhuman plays by Caleb Williams.

What do you really draw up to stop that?

I think he's got really good momentum.

He doesn't turn 40 until February.

I can just imagine a Steelers presser in which Art Rooney II or Omar Khan sort of

subtly hinted the trend of them hiring head coaches on the defensive side in their 30s and say, well, we just made the cutoff here with Chris.

Let me introduce everybody to Coach Shula.

Yeah, that doesn't really move the meter for me, honestly, Joe.

I mean, I think McCarthy is sort of the

poster boy for the retreads in this cycle.

I mean, John Harbaugh is bouncing from one job to another.

Brian Flores and Robert Sala, and even Kevin Stefanski, I would say, left rather dysfunctional organizations the way it ended for them.

So you can really stare hard at their tenures and their background and talk yourself into them having more success elsewhere.

But McCarthy's ended...

almost similarly to Tomlin's time with the Steelers in Green Bay.

His time in Dallas didn't end all that well either.

I think when it comes to any former head coach being in the mix for this job, it was always going to be hard to fill Tomlin's shoes, not necessarily in terms of winning, but in terms of his presence and gravitas and just outsized impact on the organization that

So I think that would be even more difficult in a way for his coaching contemporaries versus someone who's young and a breath of fresh air and really has a world of potential in front of him and no drawbacks in terms of a head coaching record, if that makes sense.