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Chris Tarbell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

And so it's encrypted and so can't read it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

It goes to that first relay.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

That first relay knows about you and then knows about the next relay down the chain.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

And so it takes your data and then encrypts that on the outside and sends it to relay number two.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

Now, relay number two only knows about relay number one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

It doesn't know who you are asking for this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

And it goes through there, adding those layers on top, layers of encryption until it gets where it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

And then even the onion service doesn't know, except for the

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

the relay it came from, who it's talking to.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

And so it peels back that, gives the information, puts another layer back on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

And so it's layers like you're peeling an onion back of the different relays, and that encryption protects who the sender is and what information they're sending.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

You get to a place where you don't have to have so many layers because it doesn't matter anymore.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

It's mathematically impossible to decrypt it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

But the more relays you have, the slower it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

That's one of the big drawbacks on Tor is how slow it operates.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

It's very difficult.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

People have come up with different techniques.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

There's been techniques to put out in the news media.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

about how they do it, running massive amounts of relays, and you're controlling those relays.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#340 โ€“ Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road

I think somebody tried that once.