Chris Williamson

Yeah, totally, 100%.

The success is not because of them being an asshole.

The fact that they are successful is how they get away with being an asshole.

A little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, it's certainly...

It's certainly surprising because it gives people this idea that, oh, ego is where the success has been cultivated from.

Right.

As opposed to the fact that the success gave them this buffer zone where people are, I can't be too mean to Hardy because look at all the songs he does and stuff.

He's a bit of a dick.

Whatever.

So, I mean, it's kind of surprising because I think a lot of people in jobs, they see it as being transactional.

That if you are good at X, you will get Y. But there's the packaging that your talent comes in, which is like, well, you were good hang.

How are you on the bus?

What's your morale like when you've done three shows in three days and everybody's tired?

It's like, are you the one that brings everybody up?

Or are you the one that's like, oh, dude, this is so tough.

This is so hard.

I'm missing the water.

Everyone's doing that.