Chris Williamson

there's so many other huge issues that are really pressing.

I'm not saying that climate change isn't a priority.

I'm saying that if you were to rank the priorities, it actually starts to move pretty far down.

And when you think, if people are worried about the future of the world, they have...

a worried about the future of the world budget to spend.

Almost all of that is going on climate change.

Jamie, can you try and get up?

It's a chart by Toby Ord.

It's just called, if you search like the precipice chart, Toby Ord can bring it up.

And you just think,

How much attention is being paid to all of these other things?

How much attention is being paid?

A nuclear war, I guess, gets a little bit of attention, but slightly less so now.

But natural pandemics, engineered pandemics, AGI, these are big deals.

And I worry that a lot of attention has been focused onto one actually relatively inconsequential, at least in the immediate term.

No, go back, do a Google search for me.

Top left.

Yep.

That's it.

So nuclear war, one in 1,000.