Chris Williamson

You got millions of listeners.

You got people all around the world who are like excited to see you tour.

Yeah.

but you didn't wait for a million people to like demand for you to create a podcast.

You started and you had one fan and then two and then four and then eight and you know, thousand episodes later, like here you are, you just have to start carrying that flag.

Yeah.

What Elon talks about is phony and rich of, like, people have a certain level of success and then he's like, you got soft.

Like, I'm not getting... We're not getting enough out of you anymore.

You're not dedicated enough.

And people exit.

His hiring process is...

At least he speaks about it very simply.

He's like, I'm looking for evidence of exceptional ability.

And he wants to hire young, brilliant engineers, even if they're not necessarily super trained, but they have the capability to solve problems in this really quick way.

And the culture I think is such, he's done an amazing job of building that intensity and the decision-making process into the culture, such that people who come in are brought along and swept up in it.

carried through.

You do go through that machine.

But those allies are assembling around you.

People have to choose to come work for you, and it's because he chose these giant purposes.

But it's easy to forget that these started really small and really crazy, and he had to paint these big pictures to get people to be excited and show up and give their all for it.