Christian

This is actually my question I was going to ask in the previous podcast talking about Eli.

Before I say this, I want to make a caveat and just to bounce off what Al said too.

At Camp Shioka, I've seen kids, you know, I see –

1500 kids ish a summer.

And I've seen them every year for the last 10 years, grow up.

I saw a girl today who was, who's in college who I've seen as a day camper from five years old girl all the way up.

And I see them year after year, every week.

And I see their siblings and their whole family.

And sometimes you have parents who are incredible.

You can tell they're Christian.

You can tell they're super involved.

and the kid is just terrible.

And sometimes you have parents who are the worst people I've ever met in my life, and their kids are just the best person.

You know, they're awesome.

Sometimes I see brothers who are, you know, two brothers.

One is awesome, one's terrible.

And it seems like there's no, very little rhyme or reason to how, you know, it is with their parents.

But that is kind of...

the edge cases, you know, in some sense.

But I want to make that caveat to say sometimes it just – people just are who they are.