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But I think we're not disagreeing all the way. Are you talking about the reflexive urge to take a side? Yes. And you want people to take a beat?

But I think we're not disagreeing all the way. Are you talking about the reflexive urge to take a side? Yes. And you want people to take a beat?

But Chimam, I think you are overestimating people's ability to even know what the source should be. Like, I went to journalism school and sometimes... I've been tricked.

But Chimam, I think you are overestimating people's ability to even know what the source should be. Like, I went to journalism school and sometimes... I've been tricked.

You know, sometimes it's just like... I think it was an AI thing. I was sent something recently and I was momentarily duped until I dug a bit deeper and I was like, oh, this is not true. This is manufactured. And I think we assume people to be a lot more literate than they are. And that's not coming from an arrogant place. We're just flooded with information.

You know, sometimes it's just like... I think it was an AI thing. I was sent something recently and I was momentarily duped until I dug a bit deeper and I was like, oh, this is not true. This is manufactured. And I think we assume people to be a lot more literate than they are. And that's not coming from an arrogant place. We're just flooded with information.

And I tell you, I'm like, sometimes I get WhatsApp forwards from my auntie. I'm like, auntie, where did you, especially during COVID. Exactly. Chew ginger. I was like, but she was like, no, don't get the vaccine. Chew ginger and you'll be fine. Right. And to task that person with finding the truth.

And I tell you, I'm like, sometimes I get WhatsApp forwards from my auntie. I'm like, auntie, where did you, especially during COVID. Exactly. Chew ginger. I was like, but she was like, no, don't get the vaccine. Chew ginger and you'll be fine. Right. And to task that person with finding the truth.

A lot of people don't know where to start, especially where we are being flooded with misinformation. So I think Trevor's saying maybe we should have a bit more grace because not everyone is able to maneuver information.

A lot of people don't know where to start, especially where we are being flooded with misinformation. So I think Trevor's saying maybe we should have a bit more grace because not everyone is able to maneuver information.

To that point, though, I think there is no center right now. You know, when we're talking about the...

To that point, though, I think there is no center right now. You know, when we're talking about the...

No, I think for most rational people, it doesn't. But we're in a heightened time where there is just like a lot of institutional distrust. I mean, my husband thinks I'm susceptible to cults. No, but I think everyone is. I think everyone is. Not just what the algorithm feeds you, but it's been a destabilizing few years. And I think everyone's asking themselves this question, what is true?

No, I think for most rational people, it doesn't. But we're in a heightened time where there is just like a lot of institutional distrust. I mean, my husband thinks I'm susceptible to cults. No, but I think everyone is. I think everyone is. Not just what the algorithm feeds you, but it's been a destabilizing few years. And I think everyone's asking themselves this question, what is true?

And what do I believe? What am I? And that's why we're, because of the fear, we're going to all these extremes. And for a lot of people, they're just like, the CDC did this one thing wrong. Forget the CDC. Do you know what I mean? Whether that's right or not, I can't really judge. But I think there's just so much mistrust.

And what do I believe? What am I? And that's why we're, because of the fear, we're going to all these extremes. And for a lot of people, they're just like, the CDC did this one thing wrong. Forget the CDC. Do you know what I mean? Whether that's right or not, I can't really judge. But I think there's just so much mistrust.

You said it's the last frontier. Yeah.

You said it's the last frontier. Yeah.

I need to get into MMA I need to I want more hobbies is MMA a hobby?

I need to get into MMA I need to I want more hobbies is MMA a hobby?