Christina Goldbaum
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And then what happened? And then they would kick him. And two sit on my back. They stepped on his back? They stomped on his back? They would stomp on his face, and they would hit him in the back. What were they beating him with? It's leather.
And then what happened? And then they would kick him. And two sit on my back. They stepped on his back? They stomped on his back? They would stomp on his face, and they would hit him in the back. What were they beating him with? It's leather.
And he told us that usually when this happened, there would be other guards in the room who would be yelling curses at him and kind of cheering on whoever was actually beating him that day.
And he told us that usually when this happened, there would be other guards in the room who would be yelling curses at him and kind of cheering on whoever was actually beating him that day.
And usually other prisoners could hear whoever was being beaten or tortured that day from their cells. They could hear the sound of... They would hear them screaming and crying out for help, and they would know what would come the next time that they were pulled out of the room.
And usually other prisoners could hear whoever was being beaten or tortured that day from their cells. They could hear the sound of... They would hear them screaming and crying out for help, and they would know what would come the next time that they were pulled out of the room.
He said it was absolutely unbearable.
He said it was absolutely unbearable.
And things continued on like that for a while. Until about a week and a half ago, when he told me he started to notice a bit of a change.
And things continued on like that for a while. Until about a week and a half ago, when he told me he started to notice a bit of a change.
What made you think they were afraid? He said it started with the roll calls that they used to do every morning. And typically they would say, roll call you animals to all of the prisoners in the cell.
What made you think they were afraid? He said it started with the roll calls that they used to do every morning. And typically they would say, roll call you animals to all of the prisoners in the cell.
But then one morning, they said, roll call, you guys, which just struck him as being a little bit strange. Mm-hmm. Somehow they were being more humane to the prisoners, all of a sudden. Exactly. And then the next day they asked them... They told him, how are you? ...how they were in the morning, which he thought was even more strange.
But then one morning, they said, roll call, you guys, which just struck him as being a little bit strange. Mm-hmm. Somehow they were being more humane to the prisoners, all of a sudden. Exactly. And then the next day they asked them... They told him, how are you? ...how they were in the morning, which he thought was even more strange.
And he was so surprised that he turned his head around to look at the guard.
And he was so surprised that he turned his head around to look at the guard.
But he also wasn't beaten for doing that. After three days.
But he also wasn't beaten for doing that. After three days.
And then the next day... The guards started giving the prisoners small cookies, which he hadn't had in the two years he had been there. And he told me that as this was happening, he was talking to the other prisoners, trying to figure out what exactly was going on.
And then the next day... The guards started giving the prisoners small cookies, which he hadn't had in the two years he had been there. And he told me that as this was happening, he was talking to the other prisoners, trying to figure out what exactly was going on.