Christine

in a big house, but freedom of movement to shop and socialise in bigger areas.

And that, to me, is not sustainable.

That is not taking over from family farms.

I do think they should be relaxed for family members wanting to come, certainly, particularly if they're helping to run the farm.

And if they're relaxed, can I just ask something?

Well, I think you've taken a very broad view now, David, of relaxed.

You know, you're just now really going for the juggler.

I mean, if you go up to Gweedore, which I was appalled at.

I went to a wedding there, maybe about 15, 20.

And it was, now you're talking about the Wild West.

There were houses thrown down anywhere and everywhere.

I mean, that was planning in Donegal.

And I mean, this is well established.

I'm not having a go at the people of Donegal because I think some people were charged with corruption.

So it's a matter of balance.

But what you do need is to strengthen these things that people have spoken about, like places where people can meet in community centres, where they can meet in GA pitches and things that build up community.

and where families can have their children to go to school that isn't, you know, 10 or 20 miles away, so that they're on the roads clogging up the traffic that's going to Dublin.

So that's what you're looking for, is to get the essentials of a village done.

imprinted on people's minds.

Because people still want the communions, whatever about religious practice going down, they want the major events, the communions, the confirmations.