Christopher L. Eisgruber

They're considerably more often at this point as needed. What does regularly mean? Every one or two weeks or so.

They're considerably more often at this point as needed. What does regularly mean? Every one or two weeks or so.

It is a crisis, right? I mean, the funding that is essential to the quality of American research and America's universities is under threat. That's a crisis for universities, and it is a crisis for our country. We each have our own missions and our own needs, so our responses are not necessarily going to be identical to one another. But I will say this.

It is a crisis, right? I mean, the funding that is essential to the quality of American research and America's universities is under threat. That's a crisis for universities, and it is a crisis for our country. We each have our own missions and our own needs, so our responses are not necessarily going to be identical to one another. But I will say this.

I think even when universities have to concede or make concessions because they may be forced to do that in order to protect people, I think they need to speak up under those circumstances and recognize the principles at stake, even if they say something like, I really regret this, but I need under these circumstances to make a compromise. Do you wish you had heard that from Columbia?

I think even when universities have to concede or make concessions because they may be forced to do that in order to protect people, I think they need to speak up under those circumstances and recognize the principles at stake, even if they say something like, I really regret this, but I need under these circumstances to make a compromise. Do you wish you had heard that from Columbia?

I do wish I had heard that from Columbia, right? I mean, I just think I understand why Columbia might feel that they had to make concessions under the circumstances. These choices are so hard, right? You have careers at stake. You have jobs at stake. You have the ability to educate your students at stake.

I do wish I had heard that from Columbia, right? I mean, I just think I understand why Columbia might feel that they had to make concessions under the circumstances. These choices are so hard, right? You have careers at stake. You have jobs at stake. You have the ability to educate your students at stake.

And you may say, look, I wish I could take a stand on principle, but given what's at stake, I can't. But then you need to say that, right? You need to admit and you need to say to your community and to Americans, hey, there's something really fundamental here. That has been lost here.

And you may say, look, I wish I could take a stand on principle, but given what's at stake, I can't. But then you need to say that, right? You need to admit and you need to say to your community and to Americans, hey, there's something really fundamental here. That has been lost here.

I'm not considering any concessions.

I'm not considering any concessions.

No. Look, we haven't been asked for anything, Rachel. Right now, all the Trump administration has said to us and all the actually the funding agencies have said to us is that the grants are being suspended in general.

No. Look, we haven't been asked for anything, Rachel. Right now, all the Trump administration has said to us and all the actually the funding agencies have said to us is that the grants are being suspended in general.

There are a small number of cancellations, but in general, they've said that they've been suspended pending a period of time during which the administration is determining whether or not the grants are in accordance with law. So they haven't asked us to do anything.

There are a small number of cancellations, but in general, they've said that they've been suspended pending a period of time during which the administration is determining whether or not the grants are in accordance with law. So they haven't asked us to do anything.

Rachel, I don't know the answer to that question and I won't speculate about it, but I believe it is essential for us to protect academic freedom.

Rachel, I don't know the answer to that question and I won't speculate about it, but I believe it is essential for us to protect academic freedom.

We would not do that. We believe that that would be unlawful and we would contest that in court.

We would not do that. We believe that that would be unlawful and we would contest that in court.