Chuck Bryan

Right.

Yeah.

In that kind of hindsight, I'm like, I think there's actually nothing wrong with trying to figure out how to how people can be as happy as possible.

There's a problem with foisting it on people and saying you have to be happy.

There's something wrong with you.

You're not happy.

That's not what these people are talking about.

They're just trying to figure out things that people can do to make themselves happier if they feel like they need to make themselves happier.

Yeah, for sure.

And as we'll see, you know, we'll get to like studies and stuff, but there's there's definitely plenty of benefits to trying to be positive and have an optimistic outlook as far as I mean, we'll get to all the different things, including like real health outcomes.

Right.

But there are also some positives to pessimism, as we'll learn, which was not surprising.

But once I read it, it kind of, you know, a lot of that makes a lot of sense to me.

Bravo, baby.

Uh, one big thing, if you look at the, like the, how psychology really views it today, um, and this is sort of true across a lot of psychology is sort of a nature nurture thing, or in this case, they, they refer to it as state versus trait, uh, state meaning like, are you feeling that way right now?

Uh, or is it generally your trait as a person of like, oh, nothing good ever happens to me.

And it's not just like I'm having a bad day or something.

Right.

You can kind of think of states as moods and traits as your personality.

Yeah, exactly.