Chuck Bryan

And it's more of a strategy that you employ.

Yeah, which is really significant because I think it's easy for people who say are like have a generally gloomy outlook to forget that there's plenty of times where they are excited about the future, where they do expect something good to come for like down down the road for them.

Right.

It's just easy to get caught up in that.

So to look at them as like, no, this isn't like just your genes, like making you move and walk like Master Blaster from Mad Max, right?

This is just you not even being aware that you're adopting these things as strategies to kind of negotiate life because this is the strategy you learned based on all these other different events in your life that led up to this, which means, Chuck, and this is the most hopeful thing of all, you can learn and unlearn

strategies that you're not aware you're using by recognizing them as strategies.

Yeah.

And by the way, I just realized I cannot say that movie character name from the Mad Max without saying it like Tina Turner.

I could only say Master Blaster.

It sounds like Tim Curry doing Tina Turner.

Yeah.

Wow.

All right.

Yeah, I like it.

Yeah, I like that, too.

How's Tim Curry doing these days?

You know, I actually saw something recently where he was interviewed and he has recovered from his stroke.

Oh, good.

Such that he can can speak.