Chuck Bryan

So the thing that was on my mind, and I'm glad she included this bit, Livia did, is like, you know, is this stuff nature or nurture?

Like, are we kind of born this way or are we made this way?

And no surprise, it's a bit of both.

I think generally speaking, they've come to a consensus that about 25 and anytime you hear percentages like this is sort of take take it with a grain of salt.

Right.

About 25 percent genetic.

And the rest is a mix of like your childhood and the environment that you were raised in, obviously, and then stuff that happened to you since then.

Yeah, and a lot of it's pretty intuitional, right?

Yeah, intuitive.

Sure.

Yes, that's why I was like, that doesn't sound right.

Yeah.

Like if you are a developmental psychologist, you would say, well, your early life experiences and being raised in a family that neglected you or abused you or criticized you constantly, you're going to develop negative patterns of thinking and they're going to frame the way that you look at the world, of course.

So, I mean, it makes sense.

It jibes.

It's not one of these things.

It's like this one subgroup in psychology is working on optimism and pessimism and having to try to do all these mental gymnastics to reverse shoehorn it into other stuff.

It just fits with other concepts.

So it's very clear that there are there's something to optimism and pessimism.

They do exist as a thing, psychologically speaking, and stuff like that just backs it up.