Chuck Bryan

It's interesting in that you have a tendency in this case toward optimism, bias about your own life, while also at the same time being pessimistic about society as a whole, which I think is super fascinating.

It is, for sure.

Especially when you talk about like my economic outlook is sunny, but not for the country.

I've also seen it called declinism, too.

So let's say you're like, all right, nuts to all this pessimistic outlook that I've got.

I want to be an optimist.

I'm even willing to try to navigate optimistic bias.

That's how bad I want to be optimistic.

There's actually some stuff that they figured out that you can do to...

essentially shift your outlook some.

I don't think anyone's saying like this is going to rewire your genetic code or anything like that, but there are some proven interventions you can take to help that along.

I think probably it's based on your willingness to want to change too.

Yeah, I think intervention is a good word because it's like, hey, this is happening.

Let me use this specific technique to stop it in its tracks.

In the first case is the ABC technique.

Our old buddy Martin Seligman came up with this one.

It's used a lot in CBT, cognitive behavioral therapy.

And the A is the antecedent or adversity.

So you encounter something difficult.

Livia used a great example of like, you know, like you flunk a test maybe.