Chuck Bryant

Yeah.

I don't know how I feel about multiple choice in a test like this.

Anytime you can sort of guess.

Right.

I don't think you can necessarily guess your way to success, but I don't know.

I think you just came up with a t-shirt.

Catch your way to success.

Yeah, totally.

And then on the back, just ABCD and just a check mark next to the C. All of the above.

All of the above.

Go ahead.

You go ahead.

Oh, well, as this is sort of developing over the decades, I think we're at the 70s here, but it kind of became clear during this period that like, hey, what we've got here is a gatekeeping service, essentially.

Yeah.

Ostensibly, the reason was, like you said, is like we want to keep only like, you know, really knowledgeable people that know what they're doing in these jobs to protect people that hire them for lots and lots of money.

But as this was happening, it became even more clear that there was a side effect of that, which was.

You know, immigrants, black people, other people of color that were vying to become attorneys were having a harder time.

And this is evidence really early on in 1912.

They accidentally admitted three black attorneys into the ABA because they didn't have, you know, like check here for race.

And then they were like, oh, goodness, we accidentally let in three black attorneys.