Chuck Bryant

Yeah.

Those low correlations were as low as 1-4 percent.

I think 4 percent was the highest.

As far as the actual whole bar exam,

relating to these ratings of how effective these lawyers were by their peers, they said, we can only account for that with 12% of the bar exam.

The rest of the distinctions or the differences in effectiveness has nothing to do with their score on the bar exam.

And so people say like, well, what the heck is the bar exam doing?

And again, the National Conference of Bar Examiners are like, we're testing for lawyer competence to protect the public, dummy.

And people say, well, how are you testing for legal competence?

Competence.

Like what is legal competence?

And this is where the National Conference of Board Examiners like pull their shirt away from their necks and you can see like some sweat breaking out on their forehead because they've never given a definition of competence.

And if you don't have a definition of competence, how can you in a standardized way test people for whether they meet that definition or not?

So people say like the bar exam under that description is by definition invalid.

It's not a valid test, meaning that it doesn't test the thing it purports to test because we just have no idea what it is testing.

You know what you just sounded like?

What?

An attorney.

It sounds like you just dropped the mic in court and then sat down and, and I was to your, just sat down on your left and I put my hand on your shoulder and was like, hell yeah, man.

Got him.