Chuck Bryant

Party on, Wayne.

Yeah, I'm probably wrong.

Yeah, we're talking this is another in our suite on mental health conditions.

And, boy, we've got a lot of them, but we've still got more to go.

You know, and I think these are important shows.

And every time we do these, I feel like we get good feedback on people who suffer from these conditions and say thanks for either educating me and or getting the word out to people who may be a little, what's the word, ignorant about some of this stuff.

What's that from?

Oh, really?

Yeah, and it's also clear that it's one that somehow seems to garner the least amount of empathy, not only among just people who may or may not know much about it, but even clinicians and therapists, that stuff you sent me, like a lot of times try to avoid

or severely limit the number of patients they have that they treat with BPD, which makes it even more sad because it is a really tough one.

I guess we'll just define it kind of off the bat, and a lot of this episode will kind of be defining it in different ways.

because it's fairly complex, but it is what's known as a cluster B personality disorder, which is in the antisocial personality disorder category, along with histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality.

I'm just going to start saying PD.

Yeah, narcissistic PD, but...

It seems like a lot of what it can be is sometimes a disorder of perception.

And while there are very real things that do, that can trigger people with BPD, a lot of times it's the way things are perceived incorrectly, either about themselves or about others or others' actions.

Yeah, and also bipolar is characterized, and we did a good episode on that quite a while ago, but it's characterized by like these highs and lows.

And then in between those periods, they can be relatively stable, whereas with borderline personality disorder, it's sort of always there.

This one thing you sent me.

Had to really kind of really nail it on the head at the end.