Chuck Bryant

But weeks and months and even years later when people have persistent fatigue and muscle aches and headaches and, you know, like your knee joints hurt, they said like a brain fog can happen.

And these are all things that are –

I don't want to say generic, but if you walk into your doctor and say, I feel like I'm fuzzy and have a brain fog and I get headaches and I'm tired, it's sort of a wide, it's hard to pinpoint what's going on.

Sure.

And they think you're cured of the Lyme disease.

So that's where some of the more dismissive, at least from the Lyme disease community, they're saying, like, I have this chronic issue.

And they're saying, but no, there's no such thing as a chronic issue.

Right.

Well, they're also saying like, look, we gave you a test for Lyme disease and you came back negative.

We know you had it before.

We tested you.

We came back positive.

We treated with antibiotics.

Now we've tested you again and it's coming back negative.

You don't have Lyme disease anymore.

So there's a huge debate whether the antibiotic course is not enough and that the Lyme disease is persisting elsewhere in the body and that maybe it's changed its form so that it won't show up on the tests like it should or there's remnants of it.

I saw one article that suggested that...

the cell wall from the spirochete, the Bergdorferi spirochete, can remain even after the thing's dead and persist in like joint tissue and cause an immune response there, which would explain this long-term arthritis as like a post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome symptom.

Or is it that it converts into an entirely different disease like an autoimmune disorder?

Right.