Chuck Bryant

I thought he came in and basically got Dennis Hopper redeemed himself.

This was a double redemption.

He was getting redeemed as well.

All right.

Okay, okay, okay.

But plenty of redemption stories.

And I think there's a lot of movies that wrestle with the idea of forgiveness in really weighty, heavy ways, like these true stories that you hear about these awful things that –

happen whether a family member is accidentally killed by someone or murdered by someone like there's a lot of that stuff in movies

Okay, so my thesis was this, and this is strictly me editorializing here, but I think there's some validity to it.

And that is that the reason why it's much easier to name revenge movies is because revenge appeals to our baser instincts.

It makes sense.

It's universally understood.

And like you said, you even consider yourself a big-time forgiver, and yet you enjoy revenge movies.

It's cathartic for you.

There's something to be delivered by a revenge movie.

A movie about forgiveness,

It's just more complicated.

It's harder.

We're not as good in... We're not as automatically adept at forgiveness as we may be with revenge.

That's why I think there's fewer forgiveness movies.