Chuck Bryant

That it's really the person who has been wronged.

That's what forgiveness is more about.

That's the psychological aspect of it.

Like we said, it's a multidisciplinary investigation.

And so you've got evolutionary biologists who are like, that's really great psychology, but we found a different reason for forgiveness and it doesn't quite fit that mold.

And then...

Like the medical field says, no, it's even better than that.

You can actually like improve your health by genuinely forgiving somebody.

So there's all these different inputs that are coming together to create this really like complex contextualized picture of what forgiveness is and what it does for us and why we have it.

That's right.

I think it's a great setup.

I agree.

You want to take a break?

I might just not come back.

I don't feel so good about that.

No, we have to finish.

We've got to complete.

All right.

We'll be back in a minute to talk about what I think is probably the most interesting part of this is the evolutionary aspect right after this.

Hi, Kyle.