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Chuck Klosterman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2297 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And football, it probably won't completely disappear, but it's going to radically recede and will not be the center of the world as it is now.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And when that happens...

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

people in that time are going to explain or try to explain what it was, you know, in the same way that people now sometimes try to describe, you know, the meaning of Roman gladiators or, or the meaning of jazz or these things, you know, that from the past that are still around, but they're kind of gone.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

never works.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

It's always wrong.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

Because people are always basically projecting the present onto the past.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

They're taking the, this is how we think about things now, so therefore this was the failure of this thing in the past.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

Because it's also always sort of framed as a failure.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

The thing ended, so something must have went wrong.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And I know that's going to happen with football.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

I can see it already.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

I can see people just preparing for this almost unknowingly.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

That when football starts to change and starts to become less important and moves away, they're going to say, well, this was why that happened.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

This is what football meant.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And I'm trying to describe what football means now and why it sort of became the thing that it is.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

I mean, if somebody said to me, what's the best way

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

to describe the last half of the 20th century, like 1950 to 2000.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

You need some vessel to sort of use as the way you describe that.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

I would use football, which is why a lot of this book in some ways will seem like it's a little bit, I wouldn't say mired in the past, but involves the past.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

I mean, most of the things discussed in this book, many of the players, not all of them, but a lot of them are players who are retired now or things that have happened already.