Chuck Klosterman

And they were like the first team who was going to unionize or whatever, you know?

This is before guys were getting NIL money and all this stuff.

Yeah.

And there was this move, or I think this perception...

That's like, well, that's good these kids are doing this.

This is unfair.

They're being exploited.

We kind of looked at college football players the way typically a laborer, you know, somebody who covers labor would look at like coal mines and coal miners or whatever, you know.

Like suddenly the idea of having a free college education and being able to have this life was a complete ripoff to these guys.

That somehow if you played for...

You went to Notre Dame or whatever and you played football and were the hero of the town and got a degree and all these things for free.

That was now seen as like you got you got jammed.

You did not get what you were worth because technically you weren't.

Technically, you were someone like Tim Tebow or Johnny Manziel was certainly making more money for these universities than they were getting back.

So it's like I say, it's understandable that any college athlete would be like, okay, how can I get, I got to take care of myself.

You can't expect that person to think about college sports in general.

But who's supposed to think about college sports in general?

Who is it?

Whatever's happening now with the conferences.

What's the goal of that?