Chuck Nice

And with some of us can hardly keep a cactus alive, this guy's growing a farm in his backyard.

Amazing.

Where does the future of farming and sustainability actually take us?

Exactly.

Is he still there?

Okay.

Kevin, are you finding people are following your lead with this sort of project?

Because it's not so much the financial investment, which we've kind of touched on, but people may not understand just how easy or how complicated it can be to install this sort of facility.

Kevin, are you old school?

Drill a hole, plant a seed, water something, walk away, come back, rinse, repeat?

Or are we into some very more modern techniques?

Let's go back.

You mentioned the zucchini and the vertical farming.

Is that just another way of saying this is a space saver?

Because we've got the old traditional, it's flatland, it's acreage.

This now we can stack and stack and stack and stack and you don't have anywhere near the real estate that you would otherwise have.

Is this more intensive in terms of your management or anyone's management if you're vertically farming?

Because otherwise you just let Mother Nature do her thing and you can sit back and go read a book or whatever it is.

Right.

So looking at the nutrients, the one thing we always think of is going to need some sunlight or light.