Chuck Todd

is if Trump wants her to absorb the negative press, if he views her as almost like a shield, a heat shield of some sort.

I didn't do or say anything that wasn't essentially directed to me by Stephen, referring to Stephen Miller or the White House.

But I don't think it's a heat shield.

And I think, like I said, I think the one way she's trying to save her job is by saying, you know, I'm following orders, and the implication being, you know, that perhaps she could –

Yeah.

But she also fits a few other categories of why if someone's going to get fired, it's going to be her.

Because it ain't ever going to be Stephen Miller.

Stephen Miller is not blood to Trump, but he might be the closest thing to blood that there is in his political orbit.

She could tell a lot of interesting stories about how, you know, what what the grand plan is with Miller and all this stuff.

I think he views Miller as the... You know, I've always thought Stephen Miller...

But I'm not sure she's credible.

Like, I don't think I'm sorry.

I think if she gets fired.

On one hand, he's the type of person Trump would make fun of and would mock if Miller wasn't so capable.

And then she comes out and tries to sort of rehabilitate herself by being, you know, a so-called truth teller.

I don't know if she'll have credibility.

She went out of her way for this performative theatrics.

And that's his secret sauce.

He's capable.

And this is what is on her, was the theatrics.