Chuck Todd

I don't think money is the problem, though, for the California Democrats.

Martha, it is miserable being in Congress right now.

So it'll be curious to see.

I think those four, if they choose to sort of be their own version of a of of of king and queen makers here.

It's you talk to any former governor in the Senate and every one of them.

But Schiff, Padilla, Harris and Newsom.

I've had this conversation, whether it's Lamar Alexander, Mark Warner, doesn't matter.

If they care about the state party and try to strengthen, and if they want the eventual governor that gets elected to have some credibility when they get elected, they probably ought to try to rally behind somebody in this primary.

It doesn't matter.

Democratic, governor, Republican.

They hate the Senate once they've gotten there.

And that's why you see I think we have a record number of sitting senators running for governor this year in other states across the board.

I think it could be Javier Becerra.

And then the other problem, I mean, the problem is what used to make the Senate fun and actually, frankly, a great place for a former governor to go, is that it was a place to be somewhat independent.

I think if it wasn't for the Biden baggage, maybe Becerra would be the guy.

He's a state AG.

He's got the correct resume.

but the Biden baggage is not unheavy.

I mean, you were expected to sit on one side of the aisle or the other, but nobody expected to, you know,

I think everybody else looks like they're retreads.