Chuck Todd
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And just months after the Bay of Pigs, August, 1961, there'd be construction of the actual Berlin wall begins, right?
He's really he really is what really animates him negatively about this, about President Trump and about MAGA is the nastiness of it.
So the Bay of Pigs happens just before that sort of iron curtain becomes permanent for a period of time.
Ambiguity fading, sides hardening in Cuba, 90 miles from Florida is now part of that global equation.
Right.
The personal the and look, it is ugly.
I'm not going to sit here and say politics.
Politics ain't beanbag.
Right.
All's fair in love and politics.
Now, one thing that people need to remember about the Bay of Pigs is
Right.
OK.
I think I've been around long enough to understand that.
invasion is that it wasn't Kennedy's plan.
Do you think we've crossed the line, though?
and where our rhetoric is.
This plan didn't begin with Kennedy.
It begins with Dwight Eisenhower.
And, you know, I mean, I'm sure you run into this, right?