Chuck Todd

Don't just because you think the courts may stop you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

Dr. Just, I mean, and I don't have a way legislator to fix this because of Article 5, but it's worth noting that for every state and every country that's copied the US form of democracy, none of them have copied the structure of the Senate.

Make the courts stop you.

Make them meaning even if you know you're going to lose, you may be able to force your way through.

I mean, everybody knew he was going to lose this tariff argument, but they proceeded anyway.

Dr. No, it's so true.

And what did they do?

They bought so much time.

Right.

That now it's going to, I think, take a new court fight in order to get this administration to return the stolen money from the American consumers and the small businesses of America who all rightfully should get their money back.

Yeah, yeah.

We don't do it here.

It's funny.

So many – this was probably three or four years ago.

We were on a bipartisan, bicameral trip to Iceland.

Iceland has had – they have the longest continuously active parliamentary form of government.

And if they don't give the money back, then it's just as the government just taken money taken.

They first met in like the year 900.

I mean, you want to talk about the ultimate liberty moment, sons of liberty moment, the United States government.

There's all this fascinating history.