Chuck Todd

Next question comes from John in Milwaukee.

Hey, you said Democrats responding to Republican redistricting with similar tactics may not be the right approach, but is there an argument for using every available tool while they still have the power to do so?

More broadly, as political norms continue to be tested, do you think Congress will step in to assert its role as a check or are we moving into a period where those guardrails are even weaker?

For context, I'm not coming at this from the far left.

I vote a Republican from 76 to 08.

Just trying to understand where things stand, John in Milwaukee.

Well, can I go back to another point on the redistricting thing?

If you have to rig the maps to get control of Congress, is it going to be a majority that has legitimacy in the eyes of the public?

That's what I would fear.

And that should be a fear.

And I go back, look, I'm specifically, I specifically focus on this Virginia thing, obviously, because I live here.

But it's a lot of effort.

It's a lot of political capital being spent for two districts.

And if two districts are the difference between winning power and losing power, you're not going to have, it is literally control and name only.

It's one of those things that I just think if you're looking to do you want to be the party that can repair things or not?

And if you're also if it's all reactionary, I just I don't think the public is going to fully embrace that either.

I understand that you got it.

Look, it's it's I think the real lesson here is use power better when you have it.

Right.

And Democrats have botched it the last couple of times they've had it.