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Yeah, and so anybody who has a social stigma, like you just mentioned, you rattled off that list, they're what Goffman called discredited. They have less value according to society. This is where he developed that empathy from researching this stuff.

Yeah, and so anybody who has a social stigma, like you just mentioned, you rattled off that list, they're what Goffman called discredited. They have less value according to society. This is where he developed that empathy from researching this stuff.

Yeah, and so anybody who has a social stigma, like you just mentioned, you rattled off that list, they're what Goffman called discredited. They have less value according to society. This is where he developed that empathy from researching this stuff.

Especially based on something like someone's ethnicity or whether they're handicapped or whether they're homeless or whatever, the idea that they have less value Socially speaking, in this in this sense, is totally unfair because the social norms that we create are generally arbitrary.

Especially based on something like someone's ethnicity or whether they're handicapped or whether they're homeless or whatever, the idea that they have less value Socially speaking, in this in this sense, is totally unfair because the social norms that we create are generally arbitrary.

Especially based on something like someone's ethnicity or whether they're handicapped or whether they're homeless or whatever, the idea that they have less value Socially speaking, in this in this sense, is totally unfair because the social norms that we create are generally arbitrary.

Yeah. And that's a great example of it. You could also be like my last name sounds pretty ethnic and I want to change it so that people call me back for job interviews. There's a lot of stuff you can do. So you're not you're covering your stigma. So you're not an automatically discredited person. But according to Goffman, you're discreditable. If you're found out, you will be stigmatized.

Yeah. And that's a great example of it. You could also be like my last name sounds pretty ethnic and I want to change it so that people call me back for job interviews. There's a lot of stuff you can do. So you're not you're covering your stigma. So you're not an automatically discredited person. But according to Goffman, you're discreditable. If you're found out, you will be stigmatized.

Yeah. And that's a great example of it. You could also be like my last name sounds pretty ethnic and I want to change it so that people call me back for job interviews. There's a lot of stuff you can do. So you're not you're covering your stigma. So you're not an automatically discredited person. But according to Goffman, you're discreditable. If you're found out, you will be stigmatized.

So, yeah, for sure. It's a terrible situation all around just to stigmatize groups based on arbitrary social norms.

So, yeah, for sure. It's a terrible situation all around just to stigmatize groups based on arbitrary social norms.

So, yeah, for sure. It's a terrible situation all around just to stigmatize groups based on arbitrary social norms.

Yes, but there's autism researchers, Amy Pearson and Kieran Rose, and they go to great pains to basically say masking is different than impression management. Right. Impression management is something everyone has to do. Masking is specific to typically neurodivergent people to where they are protecting themselves from

Yes, but there's autism researchers, Amy Pearson and Kieran Rose, and they go to great pains to basically say masking is different than impression management. Right. Impression management is something everyone has to do. Masking is specific to typically neurodivergent people to where they are protecting themselves from

Yes, but there's autism researchers, Amy Pearson and Kieran Rose, and they go to great pains to basically say masking is different than impression management. Right. Impression management is something everyone has to do. Masking is specific to typically neurodivergent people to where they are protecting themselves from

pushing down their actual identities and hiding it at all costs because they're afraid of being stigmatized, because they've been taught over the years that they're not acceptable as they are. And so those are two really different things, even though they seem pretty like they have a lot in common.

pushing down their actual identities and hiding it at all costs because they're afraid of being stigmatized, because they've been taught over the years that they're not acceptable as they are. And so those are two really different things, even though they seem pretty like they have a lot in common.

pushing down their actual identities and hiding it at all costs because they're afraid of being stigmatized, because they've been taught over the years that they're not acceptable as they are. And so those are two really different things, even though they seem pretty like they have a lot in common.

Yeah. Yeah. They're just always walking around like, I love you, man. Right. Yeah. Just one note about autism, which obviously deserves its own episode still coming down the pike one day. Don't worry about that.