Chuck
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Yeah. So by the time the interwar period comes along, the 20s, 30s, well, there were some more legendary people. This was a time where it was just like the Wild West in Great Britain as far as spy crafts and intelligence goes. And there's this one guy who's definitely worth mentioning. He was an early agent. And we should say most people call anybody who would be working for MI6 an agent.
With the CIA, you'd be correct. With MI6, you'd be wrong. An agent, as far as MI6 is concerned, is one of those sources who has turned code on their country and is supplying MI6 with secrets.
With the CIA, you'd be correct. With MI6, you'd be wrong. An agent, as far as MI6 is concerned, is one of those sources who has turned code on their country and is supplying MI6 with secrets.
With the CIA, you'd be correct. With MI6, you'd be wrong. An agent, as far as MI6 is concerned, is one of those sources who has turned code on their country and is supplying MI6 with secrets.
Or just a plain old agent. A double agent would be somebody who is actually spying for their country but posing as a spy for MI6. This is just a plain old agent. Officers are the people who are employees of MI6 that run and handle agents in the field.
Or just a plain old agent. A double agent would be somebody who is actually spying for their country but posing as a spy for MI6. This is just a plain old agent. Officers are the people who are employees of MI6 that run and handle agents in the field.
Or just a plain old agent. A double agent would be somebody who is actually spying for their country but posing as a spy for MI6. This is just a plain old agent. Officers are the people who are employees of MI6 that run and handle agents in the field.
Correct. Yes, that's what I was getting to.
Correct. Yes, that's what I was getting to.
Correct. Yes, that's what I was getting to.
Yeah, there's a couple where he was giving MI6 really valuable intelligence from flying over aircraft factories in Germany. Apparently, there was one particular piece of information, or I guess a bunch of information, that really formed a good picture of the size of Germany's Luftwaffe, their air force.
Yeah, there's a couple where he was giving MI6 really valuable intelligence from flying over aircraft factories in Germany. Apparently, there was one particular piece of information, or I guess a bunch of information, that really formed a good picture of the size of Germany's Luftwaffe, their air force.
Yeah, there's a couple where he was giving MI6 really valuable intelligence from flying over aircraft factories in Germany. Apparently, there was one particular piece of information, or I guess a bunch of information, that really formed a good picture of the size of Germany's Luftwaffe, their air force.
And Winston Churchill apparently used that to decide whether he was on the side of appeasing Hitler or fighting Hitler. And I guess because of the buildup of this air force, he was like, we can't let this guy keep continuing. So he was against appeasement, thanks largely to Bertram Mills' intel that he was directly giving him.
And Winston Churchill apparently used that to decide whether he was on the side of appeasing Hitler or fighting Hitler. And I guess because of the buildup of this air force, he was like, we can't let this guy keep continuing. So he was against appeasement, thanks largely to Bertram Mills' intel that he was directly giving him.
And Winston Churchill apparently used that to decide whether he was on the side of appeasing Hitler or fighting Hitler. And I guess because of the buildup of this air force, he was like, we can't let this guy keep continuing. So he was against appeasement, thanks largely to Bertram Mills' intel that he was directly giving him.
Yeah, and a circus director is understating it. He was known as king of the modern circus. Like, he was a really big deal outside of his spying activities. It would have astounded anybody who had ever heard of him that he was a spy.