Chuck

Yeah, good point.

Yeah, good point.

Yeah, good point.

Really to spy on the Soviet Union as a whole. It was massive and it's it was made up of what are now a bunch of independent nations. But at the time you had one big enemy rather than today where you have like terrorism, non-state bad actors like it's just much more dilute. Whereas before it was like those guys, those are our enemy. That's who we need to spy on.

Really to spy on the Soviet Union as a whole. It was massive and it's it was made up of what are now a bunch of independent nations. But at the time you had one big enemy rather than today where you have like terrorism, non-state bad actors like it's just much more dilute. Whereas before it was like those guys, those are our enemy. That's who we need to spy on.

Really to spy on the Soviet Union as a whole. It was massive and it's it was made up of what are now a bunch of independent nations. But at the time you had one big enemy rather than today where you have like terrorism, non-state bad actors like it's just much more dilute. Whereas before it was like those guys, those are our enemy. That's who we need to spy on.

I'm sure you could apply it to that, but the impression I had is that was just how they decided if somebody was worth approaching to recruit as a spy for them.

I'm sure you could apply it to that, but the impression I had is that was just how they decided if somebody was worth approaching to recruit as a spy for them.

I'm sure you could apply it to that, but the impression I had is that was just how they decided if somebody was worth approaching to recruit as a spy for them.

It would apply, yeah, for sure. So if you're recruiting people, that's one way to do it. You can flatter them, make them just be like, this person clearly wants to feel like they're important or helping their country or something like that. You can have... Stuff to blackmail them with. Apparently MI6 is more than willing to blackmail agents into working for them. Bribery is another one, too.

It would apply, yeah, for sure. So if you're recruiting people, that's one way to do it. You can flatter them, make them just be like, this person clearly wants to feel like they're important or helping their country or something like that. You can have... Stuff to blackmail them with. Apparently MI6 is more than willing to blackmail agents into working for them. Bribery is another one, too.

It would apply, yeah, for sure. So if you're recruiting people, that's one way to do it. You can flatter them, make them just be like, this person clearly wants to feel like they're important or helping their country or something like that. You can have... Stuff to blackmail them with. Apparently MI6 is more than willing to blackmail agents into working for them. Bribery is another one, too.

That's how a lot of very famous and prolific spies have been brought on to being a spy is just getting paid. Although in the end, when they're being executed, you're like, you did all this for $300,000, really? Yeah. You know, it just never quite adds up. And it's like, and also it's like $300,000 over like 12 years or something like that. It just, I never quite get it.

That's how a lot of very famous and prolific spies have been brought on to being a spy is just getting paid. Although in the end, when they're being executed, you're like, you did all this for $300,000, really? Yeah. You know, it just never quite adds up. And it's like, and also it's like $300,000 over like 12 years or something like that. It just, I never quite get it.

That's how a lot of very famous and prolific spies have been brought on to being a spy is just getting paid. Although in the end, when they're being executed, you're like, you did all this for $300,000, really? Yeah. You know, it just never quite adds up. And it's like, and also it's like $300,000 over like 12 years or something like that. It just, I never quite get it.

So maybe there's like, they're really in it for the thrill. The money was just the extra bonus. I don't know.

So maybe there's like, they're really in it for the thrill. The money was just the extra bonus. I don't know.

So maybe there's like, they're really in it for the thrill. The money was just the extra bonus. I don't know.

Right. And then another gambit is called the dangle. It's not dirty. It's just this way of getting somebody to spy for you.

Right. And then another gambit is called the dangle. It's not dirty. It's just this way of getting somebody to spy for you.