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And it also, I mean, now looking back, you just are like, well, yeah, of course it's what puppets do. I know. But that was Jim Henson that came up with that, and it changed everything because it took something like I mean, imagine Howdy Doody. It was like, yeah, it's cool. You know, it's Howdy Doody or whatever. But whether close up or far away, he looked exactly the same.

And it also, I mean, now looking back, you just are like, well, yeah, of course it's what puppets do. I know. But that was Jim Henson that came up with that, and it changed everything because it took something like I mean, imagine Howdy Doody. It was like, yeah, it's cool. You know, it's Howdy Doody or whatever. But whether close up or far away, he looked exactly the same.

It was like a wood head with like a moving lower jaw. And, you know, he gave you nightmares. With Kermit the Frog or something like that, the fact that he could have different expressions and react differently and and his emotions could be shown on his face, that made him that much more popular, that much more approachable... Sure. ...to people who were into him. Absolutely. Which is everybody.

It was like a wood head with like a moving lower jaw. And, you know, he gave you nightmares. With Kermit the Frog or something like that, the fact that he could have different expressions and react differently and and his emotions could be shown on his face, that made him that much more popular, that much more approachable... Sure. ...to people who were into him. Absolutely. Which is everybody.

It was like a wood head with like a moving lower jaw. And, you know, he gave you nightmares. With Kermit the Frog or something like that, the fact that he could have different expressions and react differently and and his emotions could be shown on his face, that made him that much more popular, that much more approachable... Sure. ...to people who were into him. Absolutely. Which is everybody.

Oh, yeah?

Oh, yeah?

Oh, yeah?

That was it?

That was it?

That was it?

And you can really see Jim Henson's love of variety shows and just kind of... Well, just the stage in The Muppet Show, because if you think about it, the whole thing's set backstage at a variety show. It's such a great idea when you look back at it.

And you can really see Jim Henson's love of variety shows and just kind of... Well, just the stage in The Muppet Show, because if you think about it, the whole thing's set backstage at a variety show. It's such a great idea when you look back at it.

And you can really see Jim Henson's love of variety shows and just kind of... Well, just the stage in The Muppet Show, because if you think about it, the whole thing's set backstage at a variety show. It's such a great idea when you look back at it.

Right, where The Muppet Show started all that. Yeah. I don't know if Carol Burnett was before The Muppet Show. Yeah, it was before. Was it? Yeah. So she did a lot of backstage stuff, didn't she? I wonder who started that. I don't know. I mean, hers was more sketch. Yeah, but some of it was like backstage. Was it? I believe so. I don't remember that. Unless I'm hallucinating right now.

Right, where The Muppet Show started all that. Yeah. I don't know if Carol Burnett was before The Muppet Show. Yeah, it was before. Was it? Yeah. So she did a lot of backstage stuff, didn't she? I wonder who started that. I don't know. I mean, hers was more sketch. Yeah, but some of it was like backstage. Was it? I believe so. I don't remember that. Unless I'm hallucinating right now.

Right, where The Muppet Show started all that. Yeah. I don't know if Carol Burnett was before The Muppet Show. Yeah, it was before. Was it? Yeah. So she did a lot of backstage stuff, didn't she? I wonder who started that. I don't know. I mean, hers was more sketch. Yeah, but some of it was like backstage. Was it? I believe so. I don't remember that. Unless I'm hallucinating right now.

Yeah, they don't have those anymore.

Yeah, they don't have those anymore.

Yeah, they don't have those anymore.