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So if he was like a charming guy in England with that accent and his drinking ability, he was like just multiply that times 100 in the United States as far as the charm factor goes.

Yeah, for sure. One of the guys he really buddied up with, his name was James Angleton. He was a counterintelligence chief of the CIA for two decades. So good guy to know. They had already met, apparently, from when they were younger in England. So they were hooked up again and became really, really close. And so he thinks they're like really good friends.

Yeah, for sure. One of the guys he really buddied up with, his name was James Angleton. He was a counterintelligence chief of the CIA for two decades. So good guy to know. They had already met, apparently, from when they were younger in England. So they were hooked up again and became really, really close. And so he thinks they're like really good friends.

Yeah, for sure. One of the guys he really buddied up with, his name was James Angleton. He was a counterintelligence chief of the CIA for two decades. So good guy to know. They had already met, apparently, from when they were younger in England. So they were hooked up again and became really, really close. And so he thinks they're like really good friends.

So he's just spilling everything to Philby because they're buddies. One example is he told Philby about a military operation called Operation Valuable. where the Brits and the Americans were going to overthrow the dictator of Albania to keep them from joining the Soviet bloc. And they were training exiles to sort of mount this fight, you know, against their dictator.

So he's just spilling everything to Philby because they're buddies. One example is he told Philby about a military operation called Operation Valuable. where the Brits and the Americans were going to overthrow the dictator of Albania to keep them from joining the Soviet bloc. And they were training exiles to sort of mount this fight, you know, against their dictator.

So he's just spilling everything to Philby because they're buddies. One example is he told Philby about a military operation called Operation Valuable. where the Brits and the Americans were going to overthrow the dictator of Albania to keep them from joining the Soviet bloc. And they were training exiles to sort of mount this fight, you know, against their dictator.

And Philby passes this along to Moscow. And before you know it, these Albanian authorities are like ready and waiting when this uprising happens and just slaughtered all these foreign trained exiles and basically quashed everything. The revolution was no more.

And Philby passes this along to Moscow. And before you know it, these Albanian authorities are like ready and waiting when this uprising happens and just slaughtered all these foreign trained exiles and basically quashed everything. The revolution was no more.

And Philby passes this along to Moscow. And before you know it, these Albanian authorities are like ready and waiting when this uprising happens and just slaughtered all these foreign trained exiles and basically quashed everything. The revolution was no more.

Yeah, we should probably take another break. Yeah.

Yeah, we should probably take another break. Yeah.

Yeah, we should probably take another break. Yeah.

All right. We'll come back and talk about, well, Kim Philby right after this.

All right. We'll come back and talk about, well, Kim Philby right after this.

All right. We'll come back and talk about, well, Kim Philby right after this.

All right, so we're back here for Act 3. It is now 1946, and we're going to talk a little bit about something called the Venona decryption. That was, you know, everyone had their secret codes that they used to encrypt things in those days, and they still do. But 1946, American cryptologists cracked that code that the Soviets were using, the Venona decryption.

All right, so we're back here for Act 3. It is now 1946, and we're going to talk a little bit about something called the Venona decryption. That was, you know, everyone had their secret codes that they used to encrypt things in those days, and they still do. But 1946, American cryptologists cracked that code that the Soviets were using, the Venona decryption.

All right, so we're back here for Act 3. It is now 1946, and we're going to talk a little bit about something called the Venona decryption. That was, you know, everyone had their secret codes that they used to encrypt things in those days, and they still do. But 1946, American cryptologists cracked that code that the Soviets were using, the Venona decryption.

And they said, hey, let's just not use this going forward. Let's go back and dig through all the stuff from World War II and see if we can get anything out of that. And in 1950, they decoded a message from the past that identified a Soviet spy. No, not Yuri. It's not. Well, I was about to ruin No Way Out, a movie that came out like 30 something years ago. But I'm not going to do that. OK.