Chuck

I saw that there's like a longstanding kind of jokey observation that prisoners in New Hampshire make their license plate.

And on the license plate, it says live free or die.

Right.

And that's actually true, and they still do today at the state prison in Concord.

The prisoners in New Hampshire make those license plates.

I like that saying.

No, it's not a very pleasant word.

No, no.

I mean, like, again, you're you're engaged in forced unpaid labor.

So you go where they tell you to go.

I know in California you might end up fighting wildfires.

And this is one of the highest paying jobs, as we'll see.

You get two to five dollars a day plus one dollar an hour when you're actively fighting wildfires in California.

That's something they can make you do if you're a prisoner.

Yeah.

No, but there are a lot of wealthy people in California, to be sure.

Yeah.

And a lot of these bigger businesses have policies where they don't use leased convict labor like this.

But they also sometimes can't do a thing about it.

Like if their supplier part of the supply chain is that like like companies don't know who's painting the patio furniture that they're selling.