Chuck

was the transition that America was going through with industrialization.

All of a sudden, you weren't on the farm with your mother and grandmother who were telling you how to do things.

Like, you were in the city now, surrounded by people you've not really ever met before, with a husband who now works in the factory rather than the farm, and you're like, I have no idea what I'm doing.

And so Homek kind of came in to fill that break that had happened, the intergenerational passage of knowledge from mother to daughter.

Homek said, hey, forget mothers.

We're going to tell you how to do this and we're going to tell you how to do it better.

They didn't really say forget mothers.

That wasn't the sentiment.

That was me being a smart aleck.

For sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a whole a whole washout that's happened that will cover for sure.

But one of the people that you have to tip your top hat to is Ellen Swallow Richards, who's probably the most important person in the history or the early history, at least, of home economics.

Now, let's just say it the entire history of home economics.

She was a pretty impressive sort.

She studied chemistry.

She got a bachelor's and a master's from Vassar and then became the first woman to get a degree from MIT and then became the first woman instructor at MIT and set up a sanitary chemistry lab that was for women only.

And this was not really domestic work.