Chuck

Yeah, one of the first people that the question of freedom of speech was raised around was Father Charles Coughlin, who was a bigoted hate speech Catholic priest who really kind of pushed the envelope, you could say.

I think he said the Nazis didn't go far enough during Kristallnacht, like he was that kind of guy.

Wow.

So he definitely rose to prominence during this time.

On the lighter side, one of the most popular long running shows was the Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy show.

Yeah.

Which was a ventriloquist act on the radio.

Yeah.

I mean, the jokes still work, but it's definitely a visual medium.

For sure.

But he managed to make it like super radio friendly and it was super popular.

You said that the golden age of radio ended around the 1962.

And we should say this was, this depends on your perspective, because a lot of people say, no, golden age of radio went all the way to the 70s.

This would be like the first wave of golden age radio where it wasn't music.

It was like dramas, scripted comedies, like sports, all this stuff.

Like what TV is today?

This was the first iteration of radio and it was all AM radio.

But there was a year, 1962, when two shows were canceled, two long running shows.

And people point to their cancellation as essentially the end of that era.

What were those?