Cian Tracey

And can you imagine the amount of nuggets that Clarkson must have picked up, whether it's dark arts or whatever you're having yourself?

I think it's been really important.

And obviously, Tyg Furlong there as well, which we've touched on, like what a player to be able to call off the bench.

But I think it's a fully justified selection from Leo Cullen.

No, as I said, I just think the breakdown battle is going to be so important.

And I fully agree with the point that you made about James Ryan.

I think he really could be the key man.

The team is so stacked, isn't it?

It's such a good team.

They're playing so much better than they were, which again, probably shouldn't come as a surprise given all the disruptions that they had after the Lions and the Ireland tours.

last summer, but crucially will as well.

We haven't mentioned Hugo Keenan.

What a difference he makes as well, especially in big games like this.

But their big players are playing well.

Dan Sheehan has been back to his best.

Vander Vlier has been playing very well.

Caelan Dorris has been playing outstanding rugby as well.

This is a seriously, seriously good Leinster team.

It's so unusual that they're going into a game as underdogs, but I don't think that's any harm either.

Something we were chatting about earlier is that