Ciara O'Brien

Apple has a solid base, you know, but it's...

it's not just, is it enough to have a solid base anymore?

Is it, you know, there's always, investors are always looking for more, you know, they're kind of at the whim of the markets now, you know, where when they launch something new, it can decrease their share price.

You know, that's the kind of, that's what you're looking at now.

And there is a bit of pressure there, I suppose.

particularly for somebody from a product background like John Ternus, to come up with something that is going to kind of propel Apple for the next 10, 15 years in the same way that the iPhone did.

Now, that's a tall order.

Well, I mean, I think if I was in Tim Cook's position, I might be tempted to head for a beach.

After giving decades of your life to corporate boardrooms, I think you're entitled to take some time off.

But I also think it's for anybody.

And this comes from a purely personal point of view.

I have, you know, we've all seen people who've retired from high level positions, from lower level positions.

And it is, it's a tough transition anyway.

I mean, when you're used to kind of being in charge and, you know, having a certain kind of a, having a certain routine and having a certain amount of influence, it can be kind of hard to just go to, you know, be told, well, now is your time to go and sit on the beach and enjoy your life and, you know,

you know kind of take a step back so i think you know it's not unusual for we've seen it happen it's not just tim cook you know we've seen it happen with lots of executives where when they transition out of that ceo role they move to like an executive chairman role so they're still involved in the business but you know they're taking a step back and then eventually you know after a couple of years they leave you know full-time they go and they go and they sit in the beach or they go and travel the world and they go and they find something else that that i suppose uh

gives joy to their life.

That's not necessarily slaving away nine to five, six or seven days a week in some cases.

I think, you know, having him there as an executive chairman, look, John Ternes is going to be the head of Apple.

He is going to be dealing with all this stuff.

He's going to be dealing with the tariffs, the macro kind of economic situation, the memory shortages, the