Ciarán McCarthy

You'll get a better rate.

You'll get a better interest rate anyway.

So that's feeding into it as well.

And then, of course, when you look at the EVs then, I mean, I have an electric car.

I know when everyone was, when we were having all the difficulties with the oil shutdown or whatever, and not being able to get fuel at stations, you know, there's a certain uptick in EVs and that's noted as well, you know.

Well, there is a huge lack of trades anyway.

I mean, whether they're doing deep retrofit work or they're building new houses or extending and upgrading existing stock, there's a huge lack of trades.

And it's good to be able to mention it on the radio that there's a great career for anyone considering joining a trade as they look towards their leaving cert.

Like there's a great career, very lucrative.

And, you know, it's a very interesting career.

You meet all kinds of interesting people on site and everything else.

So definitely we can promote trades an awful lot more.

And that definitely needs to be said.

I hope so, because, you know, we really do need to promote them.

Like, we all need tradespeople.

You know, the boiler breaks down, all of a sudden the plumber's your best friend, you know.

So we do need tradespeople in this country.

And we lost an awful lot of them in the financial crisis after the Celtic Tiger.

A lot of them would have joined kind of big international, multinational companies and what have you, and they haven't left there.

So we do need, 100%, we need more trades.