Claire Byrne

For families who would be facing this situation, this is really life-changing, isn't it?

Yeah, and then we've had, like in recent times, a very short-lived body positivity moment.

Yeah, well, on that point, Jonathan, just to finish, I mean, it makes huge financial sense for the state to do this as well, doesn't it?

Then the weight loss jabs came and now we're back to, you know, how thin can you be, aren't we?

The last time I met you, I think, was around the time of asking for it.

Like there was just, it was wild for you at that time.

You know, it was huge.

2015, 2018?

Well, Jonathan, thank you for talking to us today.

Jonathan O'Grady, co-founder of SMA Ireland and Stephen Lannan, thank you for telling us about Nellie and we wish Nellie all the very best and the rest of your family too.

So, and then you sort of retreated from the spotlight.

That was intentional, was it?

It's part of it I'm finding difficult.

It's a by-product of your core purpose, if you like.

And it can be really hard to deal with.

So you just went, I'm not doing that, I'm out.

And so for you then coming back out to promote this book, Whatever Happened to Madeline Stone, how do you feel about that?

You're more ready for it now.

Have you experienced this?

I think that's a really good strategy.