Claire Donald

Well, she wrote an essay on that guy, and she ended up winning the Prix de Prix, and she gets offered a job at Vogue.

That is so chic.

Have you read the essay?

No, I have not.

So she was offered a job at Vogue, and she moves to New York City at 20 years old, and she said, it was very thrilling to me, naturally.

I mean, so this is in the 50s?

This was in 56.

At this point, is New York like, we went through it in New York in like 30s and 40s.

Are we seeing the light now in the 50s?

I think we are seeing a light in the 50s.

And again, she is moving from Sacramento and Berkeley vibe.

So it's completely different.

So you have this like California girl going to these East Coast intellectuals.

And she was so excited to be around like

models and millionaires and magnets like it was completely different time for her i bet i bet she showed up in birkenstocks and was like oh you can't wear those here exactly like that was the vibe so she goes to vogue and her first piece that she wrote was titled self-respect its source its power oh i feel like you're really gonna like how she got this so originally this piece they had the title of this piece self-respect its source its power and

on the cover of Vogue.

And I guess it was probably about to go to print or something, but the writer backed out.

So they already had the title on the cover of Vogue.

So they were like, hey, Joan, you need to write an essay about

However you interpret this title.