Claire Donald

Throw us a bone.

Exactly.

It's like I just, we relate to Joan in that way of like, let's do reporting.

Let's tell history and facts, but it doesn't have to be

boring and it can be interesting and it can be read like in a way that it's never been read well it can be emotional like and you can have emotions about it it doesn't have to be so cold and like straightforward yes because it is all emotional yeah i love that the famous line from slouching towards bethlehem is the center was not holding damn basically being like shit is happening before our very own eyes yeah i mean god the 60s this we like also romanticize these times and i think that's like

a good point that you were like this is not hate ashbury of like we're wearing flowers in our hair like we are a dark country and the 60s were a fucking dark time yes and it's so interesting because she went to hate ashbury kind of despising hippies and being like you guys get a job kind of right and then she quickly realized oh my god these are kids whose parents have failed them yeah who the system has failed them

And we're seeing this in a little bubble in California.

And if we're not careful, what starts in California is going to spread to the rest of the country.

So we need to look at what's going on right now.

So true.

Such a good point.

I mean, this book comes out and it's just a shock to so many people.

Slouching Towards Bethlehem makes her nationally famous.

I mean, as it should.

I'm like, I'm fascinated.

And then, Tess, in August of 1969, the violence came to Los Angeles.

Hmm.

This is from Joan Didion's book, The White Album.

Hmm.

And in a sense, that is true.