Claire Wilmot

And I think the challenge will be trying to figure out how

how you bring about meaningful accountability for all of those people who chose to look the other way, even if they weren't actively participating themselves.

And I think in, you know, in my reading the files anyway, there's a lot of that kind of complicity, you know, the willful blindness, the choosing not to know.

And from an accountability perspective, moving forward, um,

I think there will have to be a reckoning with that.

Whether that takes place in the criminal legal system or in some other form is not clear to me.

But I do think there needs to be a reckoning with the ways in which many of these powerful people enabled and or turned a blind eye to what was going on.

If they had done something, said something earlier, I think a lot of abuse could have been stopped.

It's really tough because often we don't see what happens behind the doors of these institutions.

Sometimes we get access to statistics on attrition and prosecutions and whatever else, but we don't really see how victims are treated when they enter these, unless we're victims ourselves or unless we have unusual access to some of these institutions, which I've been fortunate to have as an academic.

Yeah, it's really tough.

And I think one of the difficult things about this particular moment compared to the moment of Me Too is that we really don't have that same kind of broad-based feminist movement to demand more structural change, to demand other kinds of accountability around what we're finding.

We really live in a

kind of flood the zone moment.

And it's tough for activist movements to take up some of this stuff and push for change.