Clare Byrne

It's being spread online.

So will we ever get a handle on it?

Will we always be vulnerable and just have to be cautious?

I'm joined by psychologist and cognitive scientist, Dr. John Francis Leader.

You're welcome to the show, John.

Thank you for being with us.

Now, is it sensible for the Taoiseach to push back in the way that he did and to highlight this video and warn people about it?

You know, I don't know if you heard the piece we did with Daniel Pitcher, who works here in Newstalk, and he came in to talk to us about that.

I mean, that deepfake video, which I saw this morning, it was OK.

I mean, it wasn't great.

And he is openly gay and has been for some time, but he still struggles with it.

You probably wouldn't be fooled into thinking it was Micheál Martin.

But are we getting to that point where the AI systems are being perfected and in time it will be really difficult to tell the difference?

And part of the reason why he struggles with it is because of what you've just described.

So there is a little bit of fear around it.

And I think that after marriage equality, people think, oh, that's fixed now.

That's done.

And we don't need to worry about them anymore.

They're OK now.

And you do this with your students, don't you?