Clare Byrne

What did you think of how the minister dealt with it?

But then you see you have the complication where the Rotunda say, we believed there was a clause in there to allow us to use our discretion when it came to people on this contract working privately in the Rotunda.

But the investment will need to come now to back this up.

Because we are very short, aren't we, of consultant obstetricians in this country.

Two million people in this country pay for it at the moment.

Now, in general terms, and you and I have been discussing sláinte care for longer than we both care to remember, it is moving very slowly.

But do you take heart that it is moving or do you think more could be done?

All right.

Well, Roisin, we may catch up with you again in time to see where you think things are at at that point.

Thank you very much for coming in.

That is Roisin Shortall.

And Newstalk's courts correspondent, Frank Graney, joins us from the Central Criminal Court this morning as the trial of Riyadh Bouchakar continues today.

And Frank, the first witness called yesterday was one of the alleged victims, Leanne Flynn.

And at the time, Leanne was working as a childcare assistant.

It's the state's case that Mr Bouchakar stabbed her while she was trying to protect a group of schoolchildren.

Take us through what she had to say about the alleged attack.

And what did Leanne Flynn say about her own injury, Frank?

Like at what point did she realise she had been stabbed and how badly injured was she?

She told the jury she was of the view that Riyadh Bushakar was hell-bent on getting to the children.

Did she elaborate, Frank, on what she meant by that?