Clare Stephens

It shows that you're curious.

Yes, and I feel like my mind has been changed because

so much by fiction so many times where I might have had a certain view of something and then I've read a book, seen it through a completely different lens and been like, oh, that is just... that is invaluable how that's changed my perspective.

And I think it can be frustrating sometimes in your relationships with men where you feel like saying, I really want you to read this book because it would really, really, really challenge you and you know they're not going to because they almost...

can look down on fiction a little bit my um uh partner's the same as Brent Holly so very into non-fiction and really in he just reads freaking like the the biography slash memoir of the Nike guy yeah and he will sit there and just read out to you facts and

And I'm like, that's great.

I'm deep.

I'm on page 186 of this.

There was a great twist, but I can't explain it to you.

No, I don't.

I don't care.

But it is.

I do think maybe it is.

simply a difference in preference.

There's interesting, whenever you see lists of like what men read versus what women read, men read books about money?

And this is the thing why the gender binary isn't, is, you know...

There are many contradictions to it because I have read and loved Atomic Habits.

I will never stop talking about that book.

Yes, I also read The Quarterly.

I blame Dua Lipa for the high standards of expecting your romantic partner to read what you read.