Clarence Jones

Um, so let me, you know, it seems like there's like these components, um, let's talk about, um, your, your experience with, um, mental health hospitalizations or mental health therapy or, and, or mental health, um, uh, medication. Okay. Um, Can you kind of talk about those three a little bit? Are we seeing more people, for instance, being hospitalized today than we did yesterday?

Um, so let me, you know, it seems like there's like these components, um, let's talk about, um, your, your experience with, um, mental health hospitalizations or mental health therapy or, and, or mental health, um, uh, medication. Okay. Um, Can you kind of talk about those three a little bit? Are we seeing more people, for instance, being hospitalized today than we did yesterday?

Are we seeing more people today being in therapy per se than we did yesterday? Put it in kind of a perspective for us a little bit.

Are we seeing more people today being in therapy per se than we did yesterday? Put it in kind of a perspective for us a little bit.

So it's interesting, you know, one of our last shows, actually, I think it was after our first show with you, we had Dr. Jeff Louie, who is an emergency room physician. And we talked at length about. You know, kids, because he's a pediatric ER specialist, kids showing up in ERs with mental health issues and they're just dropped off there and left there.

So it's interesting, you know, one of our last shows, actually, I think it was after our first show with you, we had Dr. Jeff Louie, who is an emergency room physician. And we talked at length about. You know, kids, because he's a pediatric ER specialist, kids showing up in ERs with mental health issues and they're just dropped off there and left there.

And then the ERs become holding tanks for these kids that have mental health issues and they have nowhere to put them. And so there's policy implications for this, and it's being addressed at the state legislature as we speak. Clarence, you got a question?

And then the ERs become holding tanks for these kids that have mental health issues and they have nowhere to put them. And so there's policy implications for this, and it's being addressed at the state legislature as we speak. Clarence, you got a question?

So let me, there's a couple of things I want to, you know, kind of touch on a little bit historically, then also where we are today. Like I remember, and you know, perhaps you do too, Mike, where shock therapy. was used. So comment on that.

So let me, there's a couple of things I want to, you know, kind of touch on a little bit historically, then also where we are today. Like I remember, and you know, perhaps you do too, Mike, where shock therapy. was used. So comment on that.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So let me give you a couple of things here. And I want you to react to a panic attack. So I can, I can, I'll relate one specific. I had a panic attack when I had a detached retina in my eye. Okay. And to the point where I felt as though I couldn't breathe. Okay. It was that bad. So I bring that up as it relates to mental health, acute conditions and more chronic conditions.

So let me give you a couple of things here. And I want you to react to a panic attack. So I can, I can, I'll relate one specific. I had a panic attack when I had a detached retina in my eye. Okay. And to the point where I felt as though I couldn't breathe. Okay. It was that bad. So I bring that up as it relates to mental health, acute conditions and more chronic conditions.

Like fortunately in the case where I had, it was acute. Okay. So it happened and I got over it and Fortunately, but is there what you would consider to be categorized as acute conditions and then more chronic conditions in mental health?

Like fortunately in the case where I had, it was acute. Okay. So it happened and I got over it and Fortunately, but is there what you would consider to be categorized as acute conditions and then more chronic conditions in mental health?

you know it's got to be that bad and so disruptive of your ability to function that we wouldn't call it a panic disorder as opposed to a panic attack you know interesting okay um well it's not fun you know when you have them that's for sure i can tell you and you know when you get over it quickly you're you're you're you're very um thankful um Let's talk a little bit about therapy, okay?

you know it's got to be that bad and so disruptive of your ability to function that we wouldn't call it a panic disorder as opposed to a panic attack you know interesting okay um well it's not fun you know when you have them that's for sure i can tell you and you know when you get over it quickly you're you're you're you're very um thankful um Let's talk a little bit about therapy, okay?