Clarence Jones

about what's out there uh there are some people that have just decided like you know the system is just a system i'm going to use the emergency room and uh you know it's too complicated for me to kind of figure out and so that's why it it becomes you know uh important for us to know what's really going on i mean it's not like it's not like we can

about what's out there uh there are some people that have just decided like you know the system is just a system i'm going to use the emergency room and uh you know it's too complicated for me to kind of figure out and so that's why it it becomes you know uh important for us to know what's really going on i mean it's not like it's not like we can

I mean, people have to make their own choices, but I think part of our work is to give people accurate and appropriate information. That's why I was asking that question before, Lynn, about what's accurate, what's appropriate, and then what's actionable. And a lot of times the information out here is not actionable because it's not understandable.

I mean, people have to make their own choices, but I think part of our work is to give people accurate and appropriate information. That's why I was asking that question before, Lynn, about what's accurate, what's appropriate, and then what's actionable. And a lot of times the information out here is not actionable because it's not understandable.

And so part of the challenge for us, for example, this is so funny because I was going to ask you to define some things for me that I just, you know, these are just definitions. I'm sure you know what they are. Things like, and I've seen this before, like TRICARE, things like CHIP. It took me the longest time to understand the difference between Medicare and Medicaid, even though I'm on Medicare.

And so part of the challenge for us, for example, this is so funny because I was going to ask you to define some things for me that I just, you know, these are just definitions. I'm sure you know what they are. Things like, and I've seen this before, like TRICARE, things like CHIP. It took me the longest time to understand the difference between Medicare and Medicaid, even though I'm on Medicare.

You know what I mean? Sometimes I'm like, I'm struggling with this. I mean, people... Sometimes it's not clear. And so that's the answer to your question, Stan, is that it's important for us who are healthcare advocates to really understand where are the resources, where can people go? And we don't. I don't. I mean, some of the stuff I'm struggling with myself.

You know what I mean? Sometimes I'm like, I'm struggling with this. I mean, people... Sometimes it's not clear. And so that's the answer to your question, Stan, is that it's important for us who are healthcare advocates to really understand where are the resources, where can people go? And we don't. I don't. I mean, some of the stuff I'm struggling with myself.

Yeah, and understand, because there's a whole lot of lists out here. And understand, yeah. And understand. There's no connection between the list and the people.

Yeah, and understand, because there's a whole lot of lists out here. And understand, yeah. And understand. There's no connection between the list and the people.

We got this list, and so that's where you can go, but there is no real interaction or relationship for people to understand the real connection.

We got this list, and so that's where you can go, but there is no real interaction or relationship for people to understand the real connection.

Exactly. So that's that's that's my piece of that. And I've said this before. I think that Minnesota is a phenomenal place to live. I love I love Minnesota, but it has a huge disparity issue. A lot of that is because people can't make the connections. You know, so, yeah, we have we have advocates. We have we have practitioners, but they don't understand either.

Exactly. So that's that's that's my piece of that. And I've said this before. I think that Minnesota is a phenomenal place to live. I love I love Minnesota, but it has a huge disparity issue. A lot of that is because people can't make the connections. You know, so, yeah, we have we have advocates. We have we have practitioners, but they don't understand either.

I mean, again, making a general statement.

I mean, again, making a general statement.

and i'm not mad at nobody i'm just saying it is what it is that's that's the struggle that's and that's why we're glad to have you here so that we can kind of talk about this and and and know that we're planting seeds is what i call it your seed has been planted your seed we need help okay we need help so here's here's a here's another good one you know when when um

and i'm not mad at nobody i'm just saying it is what it is that's that's the struggle that's and that's why we're glad to have you here so that we can kind of talk about this and and and know that we're planting seeds is what i call it your seed has been planted your seed we need help okay we need help so here's here's a here's another good one you know when when um

clarence point to heart which is you've got to know they exist and you have to know what to ask for where you have to know what to ask for where to start yeah yeah yeah let me say this real quick lynn yeah go ahead i think the the part of the key is it's uh more intensive training for those navigators to know how to convey information to the community yeah i mean i think

clarence point to heart which is you've got to know they exist and you have to know what to ask for where you have to know what to ask for where to start yeah yeah yeah let me say this real quick lynn yeah go ahead i think the the part of the key is it's uh more intensive training for those navigators to know how to convey information to the community yeah i mean i think