Clarence Jones

OK, so. All right. So then I'll ask if if we were going to label this show. Okay, you know, for the public. What do you think would be the best thing that we should label the show? Good guess? Chris, go ahead.

OK, so. All right. So then I'll ask if if we were going to label this show. Okay, you know, for the public. What do you think would be the best thing that we should label the show? Good guess? Chris, go ahead.

Okay, got it. All right, so be it. And then one other quick follow-up, Clarence. When we deal with things epidemiologically, from a data perspective, when we try to get a handle on all the different issues that are affecting this population, again, is it kind of all combined or are there things that are separated out? Any thoughts on that? Chris, are you there?

Okay, got it. All right, so be it. And then one other quick follow-up, Clarence. When we deal with things epidemiologically, from a data perspective, when we try to get a handle on all the different issues that are affecting this population, again, is it kind of all combined or are there things that are separated out? Any thoughts on that? Chris, are you there?

Go ahead. Chris or Raven, either one. It's like when you get data, how is it presented to you? Is it presented to you as Native American health issues?

Go ahead. Chris or Raven, either one. It's like when you get data, how is it presented to you? Is it presented to you as Native American health issues?

All right, Clarence, here we go. Here's Clarence at his best now. Here we go.

All right, Clarence, here we go. Here's Clarence at his best now. Here we go.

So, you know, this is a huge ongoing problem. You know, I said, you know, before the show started, when I headed up the cardiovascular unit at the Department of Health, always, for 18 years, always, it was American Indian and African American who are at higher or high risk. So what's causing, first of all, what's causing it besides the fact that, you know, we have social determinants of health.

So, you know, this is a huge ongoing problem. You know, I said, you know, before the show started, when I headed up the cardiovascular unit at the Department of Health, always, for 18 years, always, it was American Indian and African American who are at higher or high risk. So what's causing, first of all, what's causing it besides the fact that, you know, we have social determinants of health.

We have healthcare discrimination. But this has been going on for a long time already. It's like, what is it that we really need to do in order to impact stroke rates, to impact heart attack rates, to impact high blood pressure to, you know, all these things that seem to be ongoing. And it's like, we're, we're almost like tearing out our hair, trying to figure out what to do.

We have healthcare discrimination. But this has been going on for a long time already. It's like, what is it that we really need to do in order to impact stroke rates, to impact heart attack rates, to impact high blood pressure to, you know, all these things that seem to be ongoing. And it's like, we're, we're almost like tearing out our hair, trying to figure out what to do.

So, you know, Chris, you're heading up with this program now. And, and, and in many ways, I'm going to say to you, I wish you the best of luck because I think it's way over way overdue, but, vision-wise, going forward, maybe in the short term and then in the long term, what is it? What is it that is really going to make a difference here? Hopefully, finally.

So, you know, Chris, you're heading up with this program now. And, and, and in many ways, I'm going to say to you, I wish you the best of luck because I think it's way over way overdue, but, vision-wise, going forward, maybe in the short term and then in the long term, what is it? What is it that is really going to make a difference here? Hopefully, finally.

It's like the short term and the long term. What is it truly in the short term that we can do that hopefully will make a difference? And then some of the seeds for long term.

It's like the short term and the long term. What is it truly in the short term that we can do that hopefully will make a difference? And then some of the seeds for long term.

It's one thing having conversations because I sense that people don't even know what to converse about besides that we have some problems here, as opposed to maybe the first thing is getting some information out. about what's going on. Then you can circle back and talk about these things. I want to relate a quick story.

It's one thing having conversations because I sense that people don't even know what to converse about besides that we have some problems here, as opposed to maybe the first thing is getting some information out. about what's going on. Then you can circle back and talk about these things. I want to relate a quick story.

When we were dealing with cardiovascular disease for the indigenous populations, we realized that they were at very, very high risk and we wanted to teach how to take blood pressure. So we went into the communities, literally, you know, people from our department went into the communities and started, you know, trying to educate.

When we were dealing with cardiovascular disease for the indigenous populations, we realized that they were at very, very high risk and we wanted to teach how to take blood pressure. So we went into the communities, literally, you know, people from our department went into the communities and started, you know, trying to educate.